Discussion:
Storm grows over 'BNP ballerina'
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p***@googlemail.com
2007-01-08 23:24:05 UTC
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This story has been bubbling away for a while but this has made me
think about what is really going on here. I don't vote for the BNP ,
you probably don't either and some of their ideas are on just the wrong
side of completely bonkers, but they're politicians after all, and
politicians unlikely to get into government and do anything reckless
like invade other countries or take way all our civil rights or erm ok
maybe I'm not helping the argument here.

A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.

The BNP is a legal party with 50 local councillors across the country,
compared to Unite Against Faschism's none. They probably don't like my
views either so are they going to stop me singing in the bath or going
to work? As an occasional concert goer I've often wondered how the
classic FM demographic that comprises the bulk of classical music
audiences would cope if living next door to some of the oh so very
respectable composers they rustle their sweet wrappers to, with their
late nights, noisy practising, chaotic personal lives, radical
politics, exotic substance consumption and disreputable associates.

In the same way I suppose we like to think our ballet dancers have the
same thoughts on things as the audience, wealthy, metropolitan,
liberal. Champagne must be served cold, the arts must be served left
wing. It's no different, I suppose, to not wanting to hear the dancers'
footsteps on the stage, it spoils the illusion. I'm going to shut up
now lest I get labelled an extreme rightwing fruitcake instead of just
a regular fruitcake but you have to wonder what artist, performer, or
writer will be deemed ideologically unsound next and who else will
feature in Unite Against Faschism's own degenerate art exhibition.

http://arthurclewley.blogspot.com/2007/01/simone-clarke-und-der-entartete-kunst.html
DVH
2007-01-08 23:54:22 UTC
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Post by p***@googlemail.com
This story has been bubbling away for a while but this has made me
think about what is really going on here. I don't vote for the BNP ,
you probably don't either and some of their ideas are on just the wrong
side of completely bonkers, but they're politicians after all, and
politicians unlikely to get into government and do anything reckless
like invade other countries or take way all our civil rights or erm ok
maybe I'm not helping the argument here.
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
The BNP is a legal party with 50 local councillors across the country,
compared to Unite Against Faschism's none. They probably don't like my
views either so are they going to stop me singing in the bath or going
to work? As an occasional concert goer I've often wondered how the
classic FM demographic that comprises the bulk of classical music
audiences would cope if living next door to some of the oh so very
respectable composers they rustle their sweet wrappers to, with their
late nights, noisy practising, chaotic personal lives, radical
politics, exotic substance consumption and disreputable associates.
In the same way I suppose we like to think our ballet dancers have the
same thoughts on things as the audience, wealthy, metropolitan,
liberal. Champagne must be served cold, the arts must be served left
wing. It's no different, I suppose, to not wanting to hear the dancers'
footsteps on the stage, it spoils the illusion. I'm going to shut up
now lest I get labelled an extreme rightwing fruitcake instead of just
a regular fruitcake but you have to wonder what artist, performer, or
writer will be deemed ideologically unsound next and who else will
feature in Unite Against Faschism's own degenerate art exhibition.
Nice post.

Indeed, there's little un-fascist about blockading the Coliseum because you
don't like what a ballerina thinks.
Arrow
2007-01-12 20:54:29 UTC
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DVH wrote:
What is interesting is thinking back to the old days. When Alicia
Alonso
returned to ABT to dance GISELLE in New York for the first time in what
was supposed
to represent twenty years, the ticket-holders had to show their tickets
to
the police to get within two blocks of the theater, where there were
picket signs
on the order of "Alonso Dances Giselle while Cuba goes to .ell", etc..
This
objection to a performer based upon private life rather than on career
isn't
new or will it ever cease.
Arrow
Post by DVH
Post by p***@googlemail.com
This story has been bubbling away for a while but this has made me
think about what is really going on here. I don't vote for the BNP ,
you probably don't either and some of their ideas are on just the wrong
side of completely bonkers, but they're politicians after all, and
politicians unlikely to get into government and do anything reckless
like invade other countries or take way all our civil rights or erm ok
maybe I'm not helping the argument here.
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
The BNP is a legal party with 50 local councillors across the country,
compared to Unite Against Faschism's none. They probably don't like my
views either so are they going to stop me singing in the bath or going
to work? As an occasional concert goer I've often wondered how the
classic FM demographic that comprises the bulk of classical music
audiences would cope if living next door to some of the oh so very
respectable composers they rustle their sweet wrappers to, with their
late nights, noisy practising, chaotic personal lives, radical
politics, exotic substance consumption and disreputable associates.
In the same way I suppose we like to think our ballet dancers have the
same thoughts on things as the audience, wealthy, metropolitan,
liberal. Champagne must be served cold, the arts must be served left
wing. It's no different, I suppose, to not wanting to hear the dancers'
footsteps on the stage, it spoils the illusion. I'm going to shut up
now lest I get labelled an extreme rightwing fruitcake instead of just
a regular fruitcake but you have to wonder what artist, performer, or
writer will be deemed ideologically unsound next and who else will
feature in Unite Against Faschism's own degenerate art exhibition.
Nice post.
Indeed, there's little un-fascist about blockading the Coliseum because you
don't like what a ballerina thinks.
Arrow
2007-01-12 20:54:32 UTC
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DVH wrote:
What is interesting is thinking back to the old days. When Alicia
Alonso
returned to ABT to dance GISELLE in New York for the first time in what
was supposed
to represent twenty years, the ticket-holders had to show their tickets
to
the police to get within two blocks of the theater, where there were
picket signs
on the order of "Alonso Dances Giselle while Cuba goes to .ell", etc..
This
objection to a performer based upon private life rather than on career
isn't
new or will it ever cease.
Arrow
Post by DVH
Post by p***@googlemail.com
This story has been bubbling away for a while but this has made me
think about what is really going on here. I don't vote for the BNP ,
you probably don't either and some of their ideas are on just the wrong
side of completely bonkers, but they're politicians after all, and
politicians unlikely to get into government and do anything reckless
like invade other countries or take way all our civil rights or erm ok
maybe I'm not helping the argument here.
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
The BNP is a legal party with 50 local councillors across the country,
compared to Unite Against Faschism's none. They probably don't like my
views either so are they going to stop me singing in the bath or going
to work? As an occasional concert goer I've often wondered how the
classic FM demographic that comprises the bulk of classical music
audiences would cope if living next door to some of the oh so very
respectable composers they rustle their sweet wrappers to, with their
late nights, noisy practising, chaotic personal lives, radical
politics, exotic substance consumption and disreputable associates.
In the same way I suppose we like to think our ballet dancers have the
same thoughts on things as the audience, wealthy, metropolitan,
liberal. Champagne must be served cold, the arts must be served left
wing. It's no different, I suppose, to not wanting to hear the dancers'
footsteps on the stage, it spoils the illusion. I'm going to shut up
now lest I get labelled an extreme rightwing fruitcake instead of just
a regular fruitcake but you have to wonder what artist, performer, or
writer will be deemed ideologically unsound next and who else will
feature in Unite Against Faschism's own degenerate art exhibition.
Nice post.
Indeed, there's little un-fascist about blockading the Coliseum because you
don't like what a ballerina thinks.
DVH
2007-01-13 10:48:28 UTC
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Post by Arrow
What is interesting is thinking back to the old days. When Alicia
Alonso
returned to ABT to dance GISELLE in New York for the first time in what
was supposed
to represent twenty years, the ticket-holders had to show their tickets
to
the police to get within two blocks of the theater, where there were
picket signs
on the order of "Alonso Dances Giselle while Cuba goes to .ell", etc..
This
objection to a performer based upon private life rather than on career
isn't
new or will it ever cease.
Arrow
Interesting addition to the facts. Thanks.

I thought this was ironic:

"1956 (May 20): ...The prima ballerina confirms her position refusing to
dance in Cuba while the tyranny was ruling the country.

1957-58: Alicia Alonso is invited to dance in the main theaters of the
Soviet Union. With Fernando Alonso accompanying her, she gets in touch with
the traditions of the ballet of that country.Away from the Stages of her
homeland, Alonso takes with her to the United States some of the most
promising Cuban figures, with the objective that they didn't lose their
training while the activities of the Ballet of Cuba were interrupted."

http://www.balletcuba.cu/ingles/hitosing.htm
clough
2007-01-09 07:41:41 UTC
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Post by p***@googlemail.com
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.

Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.

Clough
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-09 10:27:26 UTC
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Post by clough
Post by p***@googlemail.com
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to

a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view

socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
When will people learn. Anyway, I am off to join the BNP as a sign of
solidarity with those suffering persecution because of their views.
When the BNP membership is high enough, there'll be no point going
after individuals like this.
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-09 12:50:40 UTC
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Post by clough
Post by p***@googlemail.com
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
When will people learn.
It woudl appera you haven't learned enough to know...
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Anyway, I am off to join the BNP
Now THERE'S a party that admires National Socialism, and of course,
tries to deny the existence of the death camps its heroes created..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
as a sign of solidarity with those suffering persecution because of their views.
When the BNP membership is high enough, there'll be no point going
after individuals like this.
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-09 14:32:44 UTC
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Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Post by clough
Post by p***@googlemail.com
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
New Labour?
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-09 14:34:24 UTC
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Post by clough
Post by p***@googlemail.com
A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc

I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-10 11:22:49 UTC
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Post by clough
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A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
But socialists do have form for it though...
Not really. Not as much as Stalinists or Fascists anyway. See Pinochet,
Galtieri etc for killing and re-educating anyone with a different point
of view..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Well, Stalinism was the problem there rather than socialism..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Hitler...etc
Hitler is not generally regarded as a socialist. Nazism, despite having
the word "socialism" in its monkier (alongside "Nationalist" which made
it something of an oxymoron) was very much a right wing philosophy.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Well you think a bit funny then, don't you?
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-10 11:36:56 UTC
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A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
But socialists do have form for it though...
Not really. Not as much as Stalinists or Fascists anyway. See Pinochet,
Galtieri etc for killing and re-educating anyone with a different point
of view..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Well, Stalinism was the problem there rather than socialism..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Hitler...etc
Hitler is not generally regarded as a socialist. Nazism, despite having
the word "socialism" in its monkier (alongside "Nationalist" which made
it something of an oxymoron) was very much a right wing philosophy.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Well you think a bit funny then, don't you?
j***@hushmail.com
2007-01-10 11:39:13 UTC
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But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-10 13:48:17 UTC
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But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
apart from cardio-vascular, other old-age, famine, malaria etc etc etc

Mao must have topped 50 million on his own
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-10 13:53:29 UTC
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But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat

World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-10 14:19:52 UTC
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Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-10 14:47:13 UTC
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But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.
It wasn't my claim, you silly little man. Do pay attention, eh?
not really,
Not at all.
but i take your point.
Jolly good
ps not a little man either
If you weren't, you'd hardly need to say that
diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
i'm trying to take this as an insult but i don't know how. are you
just implying i am generally scatalogical?
I'm just pointing out you're full of shit.

HTH HAND.
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-10 17:01:36 UTC
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But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.
It wasn't my claim, you silly little man. Do pay attention, eh?
not really,
Not at all.
but i take your point.
Jolly good
ps not a little man either
If you weren't, you'd hardly need to say that
irrespective of my size, i can say what i like
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diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
i'm trying to take this as an insult but i don't know how. are you
just implying i am generally scatalogical?
I'm just pointing out you're full of shit.
well done. have a glass of hot spunk and go to bed
Trog Woolley
2007-01-10 19:06:54 UTC
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diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
i'm trying to take this as an insult but i don't know how. are you
just implying i am generally scatalogical?
I'm just pointing out you're full of s**t.
well done. have a glass of hot s***k and go to bed
Now, now. Play nice. This is a civilised news group.
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(A Croweater back residing in Pommie Land with Linux)
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jb
2007-01-10 19:40:06 UTC
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Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.
It wasn't my claim, you silly little man. Do pay attention, eh?
not really,
Not at all.
but i take your point.
Jolly good
ps not a little man either
If you weren't, you'd hardly need to say that
irrespective of my size, i can say what i like
Post by p***@yahoo.com
diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
i'm trying to take this as an insult but i don't know how. are you
just implying i am generally scatalogical?
I'm just pointing out you're full of shit.
well done. have a glass of hot spunk and go to bed
p***@yahoo.com
2007-01-10 14:38:13 UTC
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Post by p***@yahoo.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Post by j***@hushmail.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.
It wasn't my claim, you silly little man. Do pay attention, eh?
diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-10 14:41:48 UTC
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Post by p***@yahoo.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Post by j***@hushmail.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.
It wasn't my claim, you silly little man. Do pay attention, eh?
not really, but i take your point. ps not a little man either
diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Something I expect you know a lot about.
i'm trying to take this as an insult but i don't know how. are you
just implying i am generally scatalogical?
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-10 14:24:24 UTC
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Post by p***@yahoo.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Post by j***@hushmail.com
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
But socialists do have form for it though...Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin,
Hitler...etc
I think the only bigger killer last century was old age, heart attacks
and mosquitos
Biggest single killer last century was Spanish 'flu (18 million deaths)
twat
World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more
than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981,
Doesn't that make you an even bigger twat then?
your claim that Spanish flu was the single biggest killer last century
is ridiculous.

diarrhea accounts for 5 to 8 million deaths annually
Ricardo
2007-01-09 14:36:10 UTC
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Post by clough
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A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which is a faschist
slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a
ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP
of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what
is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a
dancer because of the political party she supports.
Those red Nazis in Unite Against Fascism don't seem to realise that
once people start getting purged because of their political opinions,
then they can find themselves in the firing line one day, too. Once
approved political opinions become a critera for employment or
membership of unions and other organisations, then everyone is in
potential danger.
Or maybe the red Nazis do understand this and are giving a foretaste
of the sort of society they would like to bring about. With the red
Nazis being the ones who determine who gets sent off to the Gulag, of
course.
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
Oh lordy.. another paranoid fruitcake.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
socialism has been tried a few times and the above always happens.
You really don't have a clue do you? I lived under a socialist
government for 6 years and they didn't try to kill or re-educate anyone
who had a different point of view.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
When will people learn.
It woudl appera you haven't learned enough to know...
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Anyway, I am off to join the BNP
Now THERE'S a party that admires National Socialism, and of course,
tries to deny the existence of the death camps its heroes created..
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
as a sign of solidarity with those suffering persecution because of their views.
When the BNP membership is high enough, there'll be no point going
after individuals like this.
ANY country that allows communists to stand for election would be highly
hypocritical to deny the same rights to their right wing brothers. The
only difference between Hitler and Stalin was that Hitler stopped
killing people in 1945.

Ricardo
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The Rifleman
2007-01-09 13:13:16 UTC
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The UAF used to be the ANL( Anti Nazi League) but they changed their name
after they were blaimed for starting the race riots in west Yorks and were
caught attacking ordinary members of the public attending a polling station,
They are just very violent left wing thugs. Oh and they hate democracy.
Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
I assume UAF are socialist. That means their aim is to
a) take power
b) kill or 're-educate' in death camps those that have a different
point of view
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-09 14:15:04 UTC
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Post by The Rifleman
The UAF used to be the ANL( Anti Nazi League) but they changed their name
after they were blaimed for starting the race riots in west Yorks and were
caught attacking ordinary members of the public attending a polling station,
They are just very violent left wing thugs. Oh and they hate democracy.
sort of left wing brown-shirts
clough
2007-01-09 14:18:26 UTC
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:13:16 -0000, "The Rifleman"
Post by The Rifleman
The UAF used to be the ANL( Anti Nazi League) but they changed their name
after they were blaimed for starting the race riots in west Yorks and were
caught attacking ordinary members of the public attending a polling station,
They are just very violent left wing thugs. Oh and they hate democracy.
They are red Nazis. An extreme form of socialism that has moved so far
to the left it has gone 180 degrees round the political spectrum and
met up with the brown Nazis right at the back of the circle.

You will find Stalinists, Maoists, Trotskyties and Pol Potists
amongst the esoteric fauna of those political regions.

They have nothing in common with Social Democrats.

Clough
s***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-01-09 14:29:18 UTC
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Post by clough
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:13:16 -0000, "The Rifleman"
Post by The Rifleman
The UAF used to be the ANL( Anti Nazi League) but they changed their name
after they were blaimed for starting the race riots in west Yorks and were
caught attacking ordinary members of the public attending a polling station,
They are just very violent left wing thugs. Oh and they hate democracy.
They are red Nazis. An extreme form of socialism that has moved so far
to the left it has gone 180 degrees round the political spectrum and
met up with the brown Nazis right at the back of the circle.
You will find Stalinists, Maoists, Trotskyties and Pol Potists
amongst the esoteric fauna of those political regions.
They have nothing in common with Social Democrats.
That twat Peter Hain was big in the ANL. Do these people actually
believe themselves, or is it just abit of fun and one-upmanship? What
do they read or how are they brought up? Why are they such cunts?
Ricardo
2007-01-09 14:38:49 UTC
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Post by s***@hotmail.co.uk
Post by clough
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:13:16 -0000, "The Rifleman"
Post by The Rifleman
The UAF used to be the ANL( Anti Nazi League) but they changed their name
after they were blaimed for starting the race riots in west Yorks and were
caught attacking ordinary members of the public attending a polling station,
They are just very violent left wing thugs. Oh and they hate democracy.
They are red Nazis. An extreme form of socialism that has moved so far
to the left it has gone 180 degrees round the political spectrum and
met up with the brown Nazis right at the back of the circle.
You will find Stalinists, Maoists, Trotskyties and Pol Potists
amongst the esoteric fauna of those political regions.
They have nothing in common with Social Democrats.
That twat Peter Hain was big in the ANL. Do these people actually
believe themselves, or is it just abit of fun and one-upmanship? What
do they read or how are they brought up? Why are they such cunts?
It's a pre-requisite of being a practising fascist, whilst denouncing
the legal activities of others.

Ricardo
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Taking the "Great" out of Britain and dropping us further into the Brown
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clough
2007-01-09 14:47:08 UTC
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That twat Peter Hain was big in the ANL. Do these people actually
believe themselves, or is it just abit of fun and one-upmanship? What
do they read or how are they brought up? Why are they such cunts?
They know The Truth.

They are immersed in doctrines and dogmas and know that whatever their
particular one might be, it is the One True Belief for all people at
all times.

They inhabit the same mind set as Scientologists, Jehovah's Witnesses,
Moonies, Biblical Creationists and the rest of the wierd freak show of
True Believers.

They are as mad as a box of frogs.

On the positive side they tend to be teenagers and in their early
twenties. Most of them have matured and grown out of it by the time
they hit 30.

Clough
ILoveSanta
2007-01-12 12:22:10 UTC
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Channel Four news just interviewed "anti-fascist" campaigner Weyman
Bennet who accused Simone Clarke of using her public position to
promote BNP policies but for the life of me I thought it was the
fanatically peecee Guardian newspaper in cahoots with the
searchlight/antifa "anti-fascists" THEMSELVES who publicised Simone
Clarke's political views without her permission?
clough
2007-01-12 15:41:13 UTC
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Post by ILoveSanta
Channel Four news just interviewed "anti-fascist" campaigner Weyman
Bennet who accused Simone Clarke of using her public position to
promote BNP policies but for the life of me I thought it was the
fanatically peecee Guardian newspaper in cahoots with the
searchlight/antifa "anti-fascists" THEMSELVES who publicised Simone
Clarke's political views without her permission?
It was the left wing liberal Guardian who did a Joe McCarthy job on
Simone Clarke. But the left wing loonies smell the blood of a fascist,
so anything goes.

Clough
ILoveSanta
2007-01-12 15:57:34 UTC
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Post by clough
Post by ILoveSanta
Channel Four news just interviewed "anti-fascist" campaigner Weyman
Bennet who accused Simone Clarke of using her public position to
promote BNP policies but for the life of me I thought it was the
fanatically peecee Guardian newspaper in cahoots with the
searchlight/antifa "anti-fascists" THEMSELVES who publicised Simone
Clarke's political views without her permission?
It was the left wing liberal Guardian who did a Joe McCarthy job on
Simone Clarke. But the left wing loonies smell the blood of a fascist,
so anything goes.
Clough
It's fascinating to watch the bour�geois-liberal advance troops of
world Jewry pouring scorn on western democracy.
clough
2007-01-12 17:12:44 UTC
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Post by clough
Post by ILoveSanta
Channel Four news just interviewed "anti-fascist" campaigner Weyman
Bennet who accused Simone Clarke of using her public position to
promote BNP policies but for the life of me I thought it was the
fanatically peecee Guardian newspaper in cahoots with the
searchlight/antifa "anti-fascists" THEMSELVES who publicised Simone
Clarke's political views without her permission?
It was the left wing liberal Guardian who did a Joe McCarthy job on
Simone Clarke. But the left wing loonies smell the blood of a fascist,
so anything goes.
It's fascinating to watch the bour­geois-liberal advance troops of
world Jewry pouring scorn on western democracy.
What the fuck are you wibbling on about, anti-semite scumbag.

Clough
€ 5,999,999
2007-01-12 21:09:28 UTC
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But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.

"The BNP are a fascist movement and fascists have cost the world dear,"
she said. "I grew up in the aftermath of the war and saw what fascism
had done to the world - millions dead, entire countries destroyed.

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LOL Give the left wing activist an Oscar!
Ricardo
2007-01-13 09:12:18 UTC
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But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.
"The BNP are a fascist movement and fascists have cost the world dear,"
she said. "I grew up in the aftermath of the war and saw what fascism
had done to the world - millions dead, entire countries destroyed.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/jpg/_42445259_judychan203.jpg
LOL Give the left wing activist an Oscar!
Are you suggesting that the lady doesn't have a right to be ugly, as well...

It's very interesting to see fascism in action by the so-called
anti-fascists. I wonder what they'd do if someone was "outed" as a
communist, bearing in mind that the only difference between the Nazis
and the Communists is that the former stopped killing people and closed
their concentration camps in 1945.

Ricardo
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€ 5,999,999
2007-01-13 10:19:55 UTC
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But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.
"The BNP are a fascist movement and fascists have cost the world dear,"
she said. "I grew up in the aftermath of the war and saw what fascism
had done to the world - millions dead, entire countries destroyed.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/jpg/_42445259_judychan203.jpg
LOL Give the left wing activist an Oscar!
It's a scene from a cheesy hollywood feel-good film.
M***@aol.com
2007-01-13 12:38:38 UTC
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Post by € 5,999,999
But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.>
Sounds prearranged.
Chris X
2007-01-13 12:58:00 UTC
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Post by € 5,999,999
But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.>
Sounds prearranged.
Undoubtedly. Look at the picture of "Judy Chan" from the BBC report here;

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/jpg/_42445259_judychan203.jpg

Now look who was protesting in favour of War Criminal Bliar's new "gay
rights" law ....
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2007/01/359629.html
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Well fancy that !
€ 5,999,999
2007-01-13 13:34:37 UTC
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Post by M***@aol.com
Post by € 5,999,999
But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.>
Sounds prearranged.
Rosa Parks 2!

Rosa Parks Was Just A Communist Agitator. The story that she was just a
"poor tired black seamstress" when she sat in the front of the bus is a
complete lie.

Rosa Parks was the secretary of the local NAACP. In August of 1955,
(four months before the bus incident) Parks attended the Highlander
Folk School in Mount Eagle, Tennessee. Highlander was founded in 1932
by Myles Horton and Don West, who were joined later that year by James
Dombrowski upon the latter’s return from Russia. All were members of
the Communist Party. The schools' original purpose was to train
Communists activists on how to promote textile strikes, hold protest
marches, and march in picket.

This just seems to be an endless well of silly hoaxes. Whether it's
Kristallnacht, Auschwitz, WMD in Iraq, or ES&S the voting machine
company, owned by 2nd generation communists.

http://judicial-inc.biz/rosa_parks.htm
Alec17
2007-04-02 01:19:34 UTC
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Oh, spare us! Like freed people of color needed white social theorists
to tell them they were screwed and what to do about it. Duh.

al
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But Judy Chan, 62, of Harlow walked out - possibly the only person to
do so - on discovering more about Ms Clarke. She handed her ticket back
to ENB staff and, to the complete surprise of the protesters, offered
to hand out leaflets.>
Sounds prearranged.
Rosa Parks 2!
Rosa Parks Was Just A Communist Agitator. The story that she was just a
"poor tired black seamstress" when she sat in the front of the bus is a
complete lie.
Rosa Parks was the secretary of the local NAACP. In August of 1955,
(four months before the bus incident) Parks attended the Highlander
Folk School in Mount Eagle, Tennessee. Highlander was founded in 1932
by Myles Horton and Don West, who were joined later that year by James
Dombrowski upon the latter’s return from Russia. All were members of
the Communist Party. The schools' original purpose was to train
Communists activists on how to promote textile strikes, hold protest
marches, and march in picket.
This just seems to be an endless well of silly hoaxes. Whether it's
Kristallnacht, Auschwitz, WMD in Iraq, or ES&S the voting machine
company, owned by 2nd generation communists.
http://judicial-inc.biz/rosa_parks.htm
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